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Presenter: Today were taking a broad look at juvenile crime and punishment.
My first guest is Emma Sanderson, Director of the controversial Medlin Centre for young
offenders in South Wales. Emma, welcome to the programme.
Emma Sanderson: Thanks.
Presenter: Your centre hit the headlines last week when a number of papers ran a story
on your rehabilitation programme for young offenders. How can you justify spending large
sums of public money on holidays for young criminals in exotic places that most of us cant
afford to visit?
ES: Well, first of all, lets get the facts straight. Our experience shows that locking young
offenders up is simply not effective. They are far more likely to re-offend after they get out,
which shows that they have learned very little about themselves or their disturbed relationships
with those around them.
Presenter: But you can understand the public outcry about holidays in Africa as an alternative, surely...
ES: Up to a point, yes. But I am a great believer in the positive side of human nature.
Perhaps I can give you an example to prove my point.
Presenter: OK, go ahead.ES: Lets lake the case of Barry. lie came from a violent family.
When he arrived at the Medlin Centre at the age of 16, he had a conviction for actual bodily
harm, and 14 institutions had failed to cope with him. He had beaten up staff, friends and his girlfriend.
Presenter: A tough challenge for you, by any standards.
ES: Yes, and it started very badly. More threats, more violence. Nothing seemed to work.
Then, after careful analysis of his case, I decided to send him abroad as pari of his treatment.
He went to the Pyrenees with one of our trained social workers as a guide. He ran away within
24 hours but was brought back by the local police. Slowly but surely, his social worker got
through to him. Barry began to talk about his past and to question his behavior and motives.
The violence stopped. He was taken on a second trip, to Greece, this time with a female
social worker. Again, no violence.
Barry is 18 now and is working as a care assistant in an old peoples home in the North of England.
Presenter: Thats a remarkable story, but how typical is it really?
ES: Well, we send these young people abroad because it works. They are much less
likely to run away in a place where they are not familiar with the transport system, the
money, or the language.
Presenter: OK, but that seems rather a negative reason.
ES: There are positive reasons loo. Each youngster is accompanied by a social worker
who spends hours confronting him or her about their attitudes, values and behaviour.
We try to get to the roots of their problems.
Presenter: So its a kind of therapy...
ES: You could say that.
Presenter: But couldnt that be done just an easily here in Britain?
ES: Not really. We need to get them away from the scene of their crimes and into an
environment where they can rethink. In a warm climate, they can do things outdoors
and they come to realize that life doesnt have to consist of negative values. The proof
is in the statistics. Only two of the 11 youngsters
weve sent abroad have re-offended on their return. Thats less than 20%. Compare
that with the re-offending rate of 75-80% among those released from conventional
secure centres.Presenter: So in the end its money well spent.
ES: We believe it is.
Presenter: Thanks for talking to us today, Emma.
ES: Thank you.